2009 Fifty Pence FAKE KEW.

 

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Counterfeit 2009 Kew Gardens 50p coins are known to exist (meanwhile there are actually many different types). The style of the one shown here is similar to the fake Magna Carta £2 coin and others that can regularly be purchased direct from a Chinese auction website. I always find that the eye (of the Queen) is the most obvious giveaway, as for some reason forgers often have difficulty getting the eye detail right. The forgery on this page at 7.2 grammes is also 10% lighter than a real one which should be 8 grammes. It’s diameter is also a tiny amount less than the 27.3mm that it should be.

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Above: A real Kew Gardens 2009 50p (left) shown next to a fake. Note the wiry hair and the slightly larger lettering.

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Above: Fake Kew Gardens 2009 50p.

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Above: Close up of the Queen’s eye on a fake Kew Gardens 50p. Other fakes exist that are not exactly the same, but so far, all seem to have badly executed eyes (among many other inaccuracies).

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Above: Close up of the Queen’s eye on a real Kew Gardens 50p.

The obverse is easiest to identify as a fake. Slight differences also exist on the reverse, relating to the tower and the word ‘Kew’.

The official Check Your Change pictures (which are of a proof coin):

Commemorative 50p coin, Type 13 (info on coin type numbers here)

Obverse Type 4b (bust design by Ian Rank-Broadley):

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Reverse Type (design by Christopher Le Brun):

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Mintage for Circulation: 210,000.

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Comments

  1. jason callaghan
    29th August 2016

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    i just weighed 2 kew gardens 50p not brilliant scales 1 weighed 7.97 and the ote 8.03 one seems the heavie one more slightly worn does this ring alarm bells or is one just less circulated

    • CYC-Admin
      31st August 2016

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      Easiest way to spot the Chinese fakes is from the detail on the Queen (I find), particularly the eye area.

    • johnveheary@hotmail.com
      14th October 2017

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      I also just weighed a Kew gardens coin. at 8.01- 7.93 and the other 8.03. appears correct, as gram scales can differ by o.4 or 0.1
      Unless you have a genuine gram scale its hard to get an accurate absolute reading with those purchased on E bay or other on line.
      The only real test is .. Send it to the Royal mint with a letter of explanation. (you will get it back real or fake) with a letter giving you its history. Send to The Royal Mint.Care of. Mr Chris Barker. Llantrisant Wales. is the best advise I can give you.
      x2x999

  2. Ben
    5th September 2016

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    I have bought a Kew Gardens proof 50p.. One of my first purchases.. It’s in a Royal Mint box.. With a COA.. It doesn’t have a serial number on the COA.. Does that simply mean it’s fake? It looks real, the eye appears to be detailed? The coin has some brown tarnish to it?
    Thanks in advance..

    • CYC-Admin
      6th September 2016

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      Serial numbers are a fairly recent sales gimmick (some people pay big money for low numbers of certain issues and anything which causes excitement like that is good for future sales), I don’t think they had them in 2009. Email pictures of it to info@rotographic.com.

  3. Richard
    16th October 2016

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    I’m a coin collector and I need to get the 50p kew gardens commemorative coin specifics as I have one that I hope to be genuine coming from eBay…. I’ve heard if the Queens neck points to the p in pence it’s real and if to the e in pence it’s fake but where it says kew if it has no lines around the word it’s real an if so it’s fake…. The coin I have coming points to the p in pence but doesn’t look as though it has the lines…. But the ones on royal mint have the lines….. What do I do?

    • CYC-Admin
      16th October 2016

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      So far I haven’t seen a convincing fake. Don’t put too much emphasis on individual things, look at the coin as a whole. The quality of the fakes (particularly the detail to the Queen) is always much poorer than the real thing. You’re right that the neck pointing to the ‘P’ is usually a good sign, but check the eye of the Queen, they never seem to be able to get that right! There are differences on the genuine coins to the lines around the KEW word, from memory I think the coins in BU packs (and proofs) have lines.

    • Mike
      11th July 2018

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      Hi if it has the lines around the Kew this does not always mean its a fake as it could be a proof coin the easy way to spot a fake is to look at the eye detail have a look on checkyourchange,org and they give two examples and its easy to spot the difference

  4. barbara
    27th January 2017

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    i am a new collector of coins please help is the kew on the coin ment to have lines each side or not examples are very different

    • CYC-Admin
      27th January 2017

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      The proof coin is actually similar to the known fakes in that regard. So far (on all I have seen) the heads side of the fakes is instantly recognisable as a fake. If your not sure, send me pictures: info@checkyourchange.co.uk

  5. sam
    7th April 2017

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    i just bought a nice shiny 50p kew garden,all looks normal,apart from the neck pointing at the letter e instead of p,the weight is 8g on the dot.has 2 line near the word kew,mirror shiny coin.all looks normal.but the neck pointing to the e is a mistery.if anyone can help or have the same ,let me know thanks.

    • CYC-Admin
      7th April 2017

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      I got your email with pics, I’m afraid it’s a Chinese made forgery. Shame on the seller.

  6. Gary walker
    29th April 2017

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    Will you be able to verify if my kew gardens is a real or fake please? I seem to think it’s real I got it in my change.

    • CYC-Admin
      29th April 2017

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      It’s certainly a good sign if you got it in your change as no one is going to spend pounds of a fake one from China and then spend it – although I suppose it is possible.

    • john veheary
      14th October 2017

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      send the coin to C/O . Mr Chris Barker. Assistant curator. The Royal Mint Llantrisant wales. He will give you a written statement as to its genuine or not, you will get the coin back either way.
      If the coin is fake you can then send a photo copy to the vendor who will refund you in full. No need to send the coin back as he or she will not want to handle it, unless he/she purchased it in good faith and wants to get his money back also.
      I hope this helps you and others to make sure you are getting the real thing. x2x999

  7. nabberdabber
    22nd May 2017

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    I have brought 6 kew garden coins on ebay, all FAKE!
    they use real kew garden coin in the photo`s but send a fake, have spoken with ebay and been refunded for all, but the sellers are still on ebay?
    so best advice is don’t bother with ebay to many fraudsters on there trying to make fast money!

    • CYC-Admin
      23rd May 2017

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      It certainly can be a minefield there! Sometimes it’s best to only buy coins from known dealers, but the problem there, for decimal collectors, is that many only deal with older coins.

  8. Abbie
    3rd August 2017

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    I got my kew garden 50p and I know mine aint fake and I would never buy a coin off e-bay. Don’t do it and use only Royal Mint none of the other web sites for coins are worth toffee…

    • CYC-Admin
      3rd August 2017

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      There are plenty of other good websites that sell coins. The best ones tend to be the ones that don’t simply want your money, but actually also have a genuine interest in coins and an interesting assortment on offer. To me personally the Royal Mint coin sales dept is just about marketing and selling and has turned very gimmicky. The products are generally of good quality (for what they are) but you don’t actually have much of a choice, all new UK coins are made there and they use that monopoly to squeeze out as much financial gain as possible.

  9. Harry
    3rd December 2017

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    I have what suspect to be a fake D-Day comerative coin as it feels heavier than all the other 50p coins I have and it possess a slightly larger diameter than the rest also what is the correct procedure if I notice fake currency

    • CYC-Admin
      13th December 2017

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      As they are pre 1997 larger type coins, they are all thicker/larger/heavier. I’m sure it’s fine. As for the correct procedure, technically I suppose you are supposed to hand it in (bank or police station). I’m not sure on that to be honest.

  10. Douglas d'Enno
    11th December 2017

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    I have just received a Kew 50p off Ebay and was surprised to get it for only around £7. I note that below the Queen’s head the wording is ‘IRB copy’ although your illustration shows only ‘IRB’. Contributors have referred to the word ‘Kew’ on the coin, but I can’t see that on my coin or that illustrated. Thanks for your advice.

    • CYC-Admin
      13th December 2017

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      If you got it for £7 and it says ‘copy’ on it, then it’s a copy! The ones with ‘copy’ are just a different type of ‘replica’, part of a new wave of them to come over from China.

  11. Ian Moore
    11th January 2018

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    Hi,
    I have a Kew Gardens coin (3 actually) but this one is causing some confusion. I’m not sure that it is real. Is there an email I could send you some photos to for you to take a look for me?

    Is it also true that circulated versions of this coin have no lines either side of the KEW under the pagoda, but proof collection coins do?

    • CYC-Admin
      12th January 2018

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      Yes, Kew coins in BU sets/packs and in proof sets have clear lines either side of the word ‘Kew’. Some have been found in circulation like that, but it is thought they are likely to be ones that were spent from the sets/packs. The fakes also have the lines but also have other tell tale features. info@checkyourchange.co.uk

  12. paul carew
    25th February 2018

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    A good way to spot a fake Kew 50p is that a real one will have the top of the tower leading into the rim around the edge and the fake will have the point of the tower just about touching the rim of the coin.

    • CYC-Admin
      25th February 2018

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      I’m always weary about giving specific tell-tale fake signs because all it would require would be for the Chinese to do a different batch of fakes and the info would no longer be valid, but thanks anyway Paul.

  13. Mike
    7th March 2018

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    On checking my loose change the other day I found that I had acquired a Kew 50p but, I was a little hesitant to take it as being authentic due to many fakes doing the rounds. I did the necessary checks by ensuring that the point at the bottom of the Queen’s head was actually pointing to the letter P (tick) and that the eye detail was as it should be (tick)…so everything checked out ok 🙂 I weighed the coin and it registered 7.90grammes. I also weighed another 50p and it also weighed in at 7.90grammes which makes me think that its spot on.

  14. Amanda Redmond
    21st May 2018

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    Hi
    I have a Johnson Dictionary 50p,
    I’m just wondering if it’s worth anything?
    Thanks

    • CYC-Admin
      22nd May 2018

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      Had a few enquiries about this coin recently. I suspect some plonker advertised one on eBay for silly money and someone working for a tabloid noticed it and thought it would make a great story, because there simply aren’t enough made-up ’50p worth x hundred pounds’ stories. In the real world though, it’s just a very common coin and is worth 50p I’m afraid.

  15. Amanda Redmond
    21st May 2018

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    I also just want to know how to tell if its real?

    • CYC-Admin
      22nd May 2018

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      I’m not aware of any known fakes of that coin and forgers have never really targeted 50p coins (apart from the Kew Gardens one) so I would imagine it’s real.

  16. Cris Martin
    11th May 2019

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    Right. Enough is enough. If you look on the royal Mint website the new 2019 Kew 50p is pictured. The top of the pagoda has NO point and runs into the perimeter. The word “KEW” has NO lines around it. I bought this and sure enough it is the same as the picture.
    So questions arise; Why would the mint change the look of the pagoda from the 2009 to the 2019 coin? If they used the original reverse die – MOST likely as it wasn’t used much – the implication is obvious.
    I have read that the pagoda with point and lines is fake which is certainly borne out by the mint pictures.
    Why therefore are you guys showing pictures of a fake reverse for the new 2019 coin in the Android app? Yet the obverse appears to be genuine.
    Or are there TWO types of official KEW 50ps?????
    Surely to goodness it is simple enough to ask the mint?

    • CYC-Admin
      11th May 2019

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      They haven’t used the exact original 2009 Kew reverse die for the 2019 coin. I assume it’s either been re-worked (digitally) or they may have rendered a completely new die. I don’t know why, perhaps the original 2009 dies were no longer in a fit state for re-use (from being used a lot but or from sitting around for 10 years – if they even kept them in the first place). There were actually two quite distinct types of the original 2009 reverse – one was used for the circulation coins and the other (with the lines) for the BU and Proof coins. Never mind all the hype and fuss for a moment, but that actually means that the circulation type will be quite scarce (even genuinely rare) in very high grade. The BU and proof versions are pretty much just as common as the other design BU and proof 50p’s but with the important difference that you actually easily tell the difference between the BU/Proof and normal circ version. To answer your question – the reverse shown on the app for both the 2009 and 2019 coins is a picture of a proof version 2009 coin (a genuine one of course).

  17. Cris Martin
    16th May 2019

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    Oh! Thank you very much for explaining this. However, it does mean that now I have two types to collect if I can!
    Best regards.
    I will now wind my neck in……..

  18. MG
    19th May 2019

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    Hi. So does this mean that both 2009 and 2019 Kew gardens 50p coins are rare ?

    • CYC-Admin
      19th May 2019

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      Not really. The 2009 could be described as scarcer than the others, but they certainly aren’t rare in the true sense. A rare thing would be something that you have the money for but actually can’t find for sale after months of searching. The 2019 coins will never be circulated, which seems to get some people excited. Realistically though, there will probably always be enough around to buy.

  19. David Elcomb
    5th April 2020

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    Hi. Sorry to rake up old questions. I have a Kew 50p as a coin cover. Can I assume that as this looks untampered with, that this is real

    • CYC-Admin
      5th April 2020

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      Yes, probably. But no one can be sure without seeing it. I’ve seen people that have put other date ‘NEW PENCE’ 2p’s in 1983 sets to make it look like the rare one.

  20. Robert Laidlaw
    4th February 2021

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    Beware on eBay.There are 2009 coin sets with the supposed BU
    Kew Gardens 50p which on closer inspection are not the real coin.
    Very easy to switch for lookalike and sell for £300+ and then sell
    the genuine coin separately .
    Also find the 2019 version is also being sold for more than
    £50 . Just crazy!! They are still available from a reputable coin
    dealer for under £10. Just bought mine,so hello eBay.

  21. Robert Laidlaw
    5th February 2021

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    Can anyone check a 2009 Royal Mint UK Proof Coin Collection
    which is currently up for auction on eBay and tell me that those coins are the real mccoy. This collection also includes the much sought after KEW GARDENS 50p coin. If those are Brilliant
    Uncirculated or even genuine then I shall need to get an eye test
    urgently. The item listing is No.174626108411 and has been bid
    over £50 so far with just under 3 days until the auction ends.
    I just hope those bidders are aware of what exactly they are buying. Please look again you guys out there.
    Please advise ASAP. Thanks.

    • CYC-Admin
      5th February 2021

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      It’s hard to say for sure as the pictures aren’t great and the seller doesn’t show the obverse, which is always a lot more obvious than the reverse.

  22. Robert Laidlaw
    6th February 2021

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    Thanks for your feedback. I contacted the seller and he/she has
    provided more pictures which include the obverse side which I had
    asked to see. My conclusion is that those additional pictures are
    clearly from a Brilliant Uncirculated Proof set and definitely not
    the same as the original listing. i received a response this morning
    and basically told if I don’t like the coins on offer then don’t bid.
    I will not be bidding. Bidders have now pushed the total over
    £150 so far.

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